Wartezimmer Praxis Dr. ICB2.0

[Lt.AnimalMother]

We have been waiting since six weeks, now. You will survive it

 

[Xooldman]

Aber es ist schon so, dass mit einer Lieferung nicht vor Ende März / Anfang April zu rechnen ist oder besteht Hoffnung auf eine frühere Lieferung?

 

[ridemore]

We have been waiting since six weeks, now. You will survive it :thumb:

Your are right, but if only there was more snow in central Italy , I would not care

 

[SebT-Rex]

Your are right, but if only there was more snow in central Italy , I would not care

I will be in tyrol in february , so please : no snow! i will have some ICB with me, if you like, we can meet and test!

 

[hnx]

Bis vor Kurzem hätte ich dem Wunsch noch Chancen eingeräumt. Bist aber sicher einer der wenigen Reisenden in der Zeit, die diesen Wunsch hegen.

 

[SebT-Rex]

Bis vor Kurzem hätte ich dem Wunsch noch Chancen eingeräumt. Bist aber sicher einer der wenigen Reisenden in der Zeit, die diesen Wunsch hegen.

bis gestern sah es noch gut aus, aber jetzt liegt überall Schnee... dann halt Finale, auch nicht so blöd;-)

 

[ridemore]

I will be in tyrol in february , so please : no snow! i will have some ICB with me, if you like, we can meet and test!

Thank you for the opportunity, I'd like very much but from Rome to Tyrol is a long way (...and I still prefer to ski/snowboard wintertime )

 

[Speziazlizt]

Thank you for the opportunity, I'd like very much but from Rome to Tyrol is a long way (...and I still prefer to ski/snowboard wintertime )

Roma --> Bolzano 4 hours by train and then you are nearly in Tyrol

 

[Alumini]

Baut die Fabrik immer nur ein Modell nach dem anderen? Teibuns gerade eingetroffen (also vor 4-8 Wochen fertig geworden), Sennes gerade fertig und Mitte/Ende Februar hier. ICB angekündigt für Ende März/Anfang April...

 

[JENSeits]

Baut die Fabrik immer nur ein Modell nach dem anderen? Teibuns gerade eingetroffen (also vor 4-8 Wochen fertig geworden), Sennes gerade fertig und Mitte/Ende Februar hier. ICB angekündigt für Ende März/Anfang April...

Ich denke einfach mal Alutech hat die anderen Modelle früher, in anderen Mengen und zu anderen Konditionen platziert.

 

[ridemore]

Question about the geometry.
Why the stack is so high, compared to other "similar" bikes?

Let's see some frames I was considering before pulling the trigger on ICB 2.0

All frames size L
ICB 2.0: 636
Kona Process 134: 610
Banshee Spitfire: 596
Transition Scout: 606
Bird Aeris: 598
Vitus Escarpe 601
Canyon Spectral: 621
Even compared to other Alutech bikes the stack is higher on the ICB 2.0

As we can see the ICB 2.0 has the higher stack of all (in some cases by far), the closest one is the Canyon Spectral that in some reviews has been criticized for the high cockpit...

I'm curious to know which were the design decisions that led to this and how this can affect the handling.
Just for info I'm 188 and now I have a Kona Explosif with a stack of 626 (Kona lowered it by 12mm on 2016 model) and no risers.

 

[Lt.AnimalMother]

We have chosen a high stack, because most of the average riders in this Forum are using spacers from 10 to 25mm plus handlebars with rise from 10 to 40mm at bikes with this type of "modern" Geometry. Additionaly nearly all riders, who were testing the prototypes of the 2.0 liked the high stack.

 

[Phi-Me]

So in Other words: with the high Stack, you do not need too many ugly looking spacers...

 

[Lt.AnimalMother]

More important: every spacer under the stem reduces the reach. Especially at low steeringangles.

 

[LC4Fun]

I'm looking forward using a 5mm Spacer and 10mm handlebar in combinbation with 150mm Pike at the M-Frame

 

[luniz]

More important: every spacer under the stem reduces the reach. Especially at low steeringangles.

Hmm... extending the top of the steerer tube does have the same effect if I'm not completely messing things up in my mind ?!

 

[ridemore]

We have chosen a high stack, because most of the average riders in this Forum are using spacers from 10 to 25mm plus handlebars with rise from 10 to 40mm at bikes with this type of "modern" Geometry. Additionaly nearly all riders, who were testing the prototypes of the 2.0 liked the high stack.

Thanks for the explanation
Like I said I don't use spacers and my bike has a 626mm stack, but I just realized that I changed the fork from 120mm (original) to 150 so in reality I should have about 655mm
Mounting my fork to the ICB 2.0 frame I should actually have less stack

 

[AboAC]

Hmm... extending the top of the steerer tube does have the same effect if I'm not completely messing things up in my mind ?!

Reach is measured horizontally between the top of the steerer tube and the bottom bracket. So for a given frame, the longer steerer tube is already taken into account.

Andreas

 

[SebT-Rex]

oi, wosch den nu hia los, simma bai pinkbike oda wosch?
Sehr gut Männer, perfektes Beispiel für eine gelungene Integration, Mutti wär stolz auf uns!

 

[hnx]

High stack these days is mostly an optical thing. Less spacer, lower ahead cap and low rise bars. Preferring medium to low stack as I can play around with different bar rise and spacers (running "weird" combo of no spacers with 38mm riser on my current bike).

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Reach is measured horizontally between the top of the steerer tube and the bottom bracket. So for a given frame, the longer steerer tube is already taken into account.

Andreas

Not if you extend the steerer tube after the frame is build.

 

[Kosmoprolet]

Schreibt doch bitte wieder in Deutsch, der Basti versteht nur die Hälfte

 

[SebT-Rex]

Schreibt doch bitte wieder in Deutsch, der Basti versteht nur die Hälfte

woas soagst?

 

[zr0wrk]

Perché non parliamo italiano col ragazzo?

 

[LC4Fun]

keiner mag Klugscheißer, moinami

 

[Phi-Me]

keiner mag Klugscheißer, moinami

Meeein Gott...

...Mir geht ein Licht auf!

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