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Hi!
(Hope I didnt click any wrong buttons on my way here)
Im a swedish dude who doesnt know any german at all, its pure luck i got this far.
I have searched far and wide for the right bike, and when I suddenly came over the Canyon Torque I knew it was the one. Its equipped with very nice parts for the price, and its light considered its "Federweg"
However. (There is always a catch)
I have read this http://www.bike-magazin.de/bko/bike_artikel/show.php3?id=2439&nodeid=10&ps_lo=5 (with some help of course) and I have also tried to model the frame in the program "Linkage" to simulate the geometry of the frame. Both the article and the simulation tells me that the frame has a falling rate. I understand that this is an attempt to compensate for the rising rate of the Fox Air shock, but the article above tells med that the frame may be abit to degressive (have a to steep falling rate). Also my little simulation (done many times, in order to avoid some of the errors always associated with simulation) shows a steep falling rate, especialy at the end of the compression. I have also heard that the Fox DHX Air 5.0 has very coil-like performance, which also points towards a falling rate for the whole package frame+shock.
I know that the rate of the Fox shock is adjustable but i dont know how much. Is it enough for the falling rate of the frame? or in other words, is the frame over compensating for the progressive air shock.
Another interesting discovery I have made is that a mere look at the frame shows that, because of the short "frame fix link", the shock/link-pivot moves almost perpendiculat to the shocks compression line at full compression. This is what give the radically falling rate at the end of the compression, isn't it?
Before I put 2400 on a bike I would like to be sure that if I want to I can, with any kind of minor adjustments, get a progressive compression from the whole frame+shock system. Is that possible with this bike?
Will it be possible to exchange the relatively short "frame fix link" in order to dicrease the falling rate of the frame?
Thank you for your time.
/MysFarbrorn
Sweden
(Hope I didnt click any wrong buttons on my way here)
Im a swedish dude who doesnt know any german at all, its pure luck i got this far.
I have searched far and wide for the right bike, and when I suddenly came over the Canyon Torque I knew it was the one. Its equipped with very nice parts for the price, and its light considered its "Federweg"
However. (There is always a catch)
I have read this http://www.bike-magazin.de/bko/bike_artikel/show.php3?id=2439&nodeid=10&ps_lo=5 (with some help of course) and I have also tried to model the frame in the program "Linkage" to simulate the geometry of the frame. Both the article and the simulation tells me that the frame has a falling rate. I understand that this is an attempt to compensate for the rising rate of the Fox Air shock, but the article above tells med that the frame may be abit to degressive (have a to steep falling rate). Also my little simulation (done many times, in order to avoid some of the errors always associated with simulation) shows a steep falling rate, especialy at the end of the compression. I have also heard that the Fox DHX Air 5.0 has very coil-like performance, which also points towards a falling rate for the whole package frame+shock.
I know that the rate of the Fox shock is adjustable but i dont know how much. Is it enough for the falling rate of the frame? or in other words, is the frame over compensating for the progressive air shock.
Another interesting discovery I have made is that a mere look at the frame shows that, because of the short "frame fix link", the shock/link-pivot moves almost perpendiculat to the shocks compression line at full compression. This is what give the radically falling rate at the end of the compression, isn't it?
Before I put 2400 on a bike I would like to be sure that if I want to I can, with any kind of minor adjustments, get a progressive compression from the whole frame+shock system. Is that possible with this bike?
Will it be possible to exchange the relatively short "frame fix link" in order to dicrease the falling rate of the frame?
Thank you for your time.
/MysFarbrorn
Sweden
