Jeroen
Rigid Fork Service Centre
Nach, zugegeben viel zulang, 7 Jahre ist es endlich so weit....
Spaeter mehr...
Spaeter mehr...
Phoenished...
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Das schaut SEHR vielversprechend aus...
... und was mitgebracht hast!
schnebelke
one inch man
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dann brauchst du ja das wtb nicht mehr 
berlin-mtbler
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Jeroen
Rigid Fork Service Centre
Purchased this 12" '94 Phoenix SE in 2004 from Andreas in Germany. This would fit me better than the '94 15"er (canti version) that I had a while before that, which I sold to Scotland.
Had ambitious plans for the build, some home-made stuff in proper WTB-thinking. Bodged a crankset together with a CQP crank arm, RSR spider and Boone ti rings that I had machined such that they would be flush on all edges with the RSR spider. The bodge-job didn't work out... and let's be honest, 177mm cranks for me, on a 12" bike isn't a cool thing.
Than I had to solve the rear-brake problem; the supplied toggle cam hit the seatbinder bolt. Laser-cut a new camplate with an offset cable ancor point and welded a treaded stud to it. Worked perfect. Modified the rear hub to a ti axle and ti XTR body (not period correct, Im aware).
For years the project was slumbering on, still needed a LD stem as for sure I wanted a WTB drop bar on this bike. In the pre-classic-hype days I managed to get me some WTB shifter mounts and 3 dirt drop bars. In the meantime I drew up my Crisp Ti singlespeeder following the Phoenix' lines and base its geo strongly on this WTB. Have been riding on that Phoenix-nephew since 2006... Funny enough the Phoenix already feels 'at home'.
Enter 2009 when I finally got 2 LDs made by Rody Walter... Went out for tracking down a top notch painter who could match the color of the frame so I could get the stem and the forks painted (fork was painted in Germany seperatly from the frame, didn't match). After quite some try's, they nailed it.
After purchasing a house (time crusher, right there...), and more or less accidently score a near nos XTR crankset, the build-up finally came closer. The 36h front wheel needed to go as the rear counted 32 spokes.
With some help of a friend close to the source I was able to get Charlie Cunningham to make me a Hi-E based 28h front hub. Relaced the rear hub together with the new front hub to some more period correct M231 Mavic rims and after tracking down a proper BB and M737 pedals, the build was on!
I now present to you my '94 Phoenix SE.
Spec's;
- Frame; WTB Phoenix SE '94, 12", framenumber 94291
- Fork; WTB Type II, Rollercam
- Headset; Chris King 1" threaded
- Cable hanger; WTB, replica
- Stem; Groovy Cycles LD
- Handlebar; WTB Dirt Drop
- Brakelevers; DiaCompe GranCompe
- Front brake; WTB Speedmaster Rollercam
- Rear brake; WTB Speedmaster Togglecam, modified
- Cable adjusters; Charlie Cunningham
- Seatpost; American Classic 31.8
- Saddle; WTB SST
- Front hub; Charlie Cunningham
- Rear hub; WTB Paradigm, modified with XTR ti freewheel and axle
- Spokes f+r; DT Revolution, brass nipples
- Rims; Mavic M231
- Skewers; Charlie Cunningham slo-release
- Tires; WTB Velociraptor
- Crankset; XTR M900
- BB; BB-UN91
- Shifters; Shimano XT 735 thumbs on WTB shifter mounts
- Front derailleur; XTR M900
- Rear derailleur; XTR M900
- Cassette; XTR M900
- Chain; CN-HG90
- Pedals; Shimano XT M737 with ti spindles
- Bottlecage; Blackburn titanium
Mehrere bilder gibt es hier:
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/cruelcycles/Phoenix/
Had ambitious plans for the build, some home-made stuff in proper WTB-thinking. Bodged a crankset together with a CQP crank arm, RSR spider and Boone ti rings that I had machined such that they would be flush on all edges with the RSR spider. The bodge-job didn't work out... and let's be honest, 177mm cranks for me, on a 12" bike isn't a cool thing.
Than I had to solve the rear-brake problem; the supplied toggle cam hit the seatbinder bolt. Laser-cut a new camplate with an offset cable ancor point and welded a treaded stud to it. Worked perfect. Modified the rear hub to a ti axle and ti XTR body (not period correct, Im aware).
For years the project was slumbering on, still needed a LD stem as for sure I wanted a WTB drop bar on this bike. In the pre-classic-hype days I managed to get me some WTB shifter mounts and 3 dirt drop bars. In the meantime I drew up my Crisp Ti singlespeeder following the Phoenix' lines and base its geo strongly on this WTB. Have been riding on that Phoenix-nephew since 2006... Funny enough the Phoenix already feels 'at home'.
Enter 2009 when I finally got 2 LDs made by Rody Walter... Went out for tracking down a top notch painter who could match the color of the frame so I could get the stem and the forks painted (fork was painted in Germany seperatly from the frame, didn't match). After quite some try's, they nailed it.
After purchasing a house (time crusher, right there...), and more or less accidently score a near nos XTR crankset, the build-up finally came closer. The 36h front wheel needed to go as the rear counted 32 spokes.
With some help of a friend close to the source I was able to get Charlie Cunningham to make me a Hi-E based 28h front hub. Relaced the rear hub together with the new front hub to some more period correct M231 Mavic rims and after tracking down a proper BB and M737 pedals, the build was on!
I now present to you my '94 Phoenix SE.
Spec's;
- Frame; WTB Phoenix SE '94, 12", framenumber 94291
- Fork; WTB Type II, Rollercam
- Headset; Chris King 1" threaded
- Cable hanger; WTB, replica
- Stem; Groovy Cycles LD
- Handlebar; WTB Dirt Drop
- Brakelevers; DiaCompe GranCompe
- Front brake; WTB Speedmaster Rollercam
- Rear brake; WTB Speedmaster Togglecam, modified
- Cable adjusters; Charlie Cunningham
- Seatpost; American Classic 31.8
- Saddle; WTB SST
- Front hub; Charlie Cunningham
- Rear hub; WTB Paradigm, modified with XTR ti freewheel and axle
- Spokes f+r; DT Revolution, brass nipples
- Rims; Mavic M231
- Skewers; Charlie Cunningham slo-release
- Tires; WTB Velociraptor
- Crankset; XTR M900
- BB; BB-UN91
- Shifters; Shimano XT 735 thumbs on WTB shifter mounts
- Front derailleur; XTR M900
- Rear derailleur; XTR M900
- Cassette; XTR M900
- Chain; CN-HG90
- Pedals; Shimano XT M737 with ti spindles
- Bottlecage; Blackburn titanium
Mehrere bilder gibt es hier:
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/cruelcycles/Phoenix/
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thank you!
wonderful...
wonderful...
aggressor2
HDR stinkt
- Rear brake; WTB Speedmaster Togglecam, modified
geil!
bighit_fsr
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ugly cool
ph0
Einzelgänger
ph0
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schnebelke
one inch man
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lovely!
chowi
CUSTOM isör
A very nice build!
But is it the correct size?
regards chowi
But is it the correct size?
regards chowi
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Die Liebe zum Detail macht schon beim virtuellen Zusehen große Freude!
Das Erscheinungsbild des Feuervogels erinnert mich fast ein wenig an Philippes Grove X und zingels Trimble X...
Das Erscheinungsbild des Feuervogels erinnert mich fast ein wenig an Philippes Grove X und zingels Trimble X...
So muss ein phoenix aussehen! Super schoenes bike 
wtb_rider
Eigenlob stimmt
hello jeroen
do you know if your frame is suspension corrected?
i own a 94 phoenix as well, and would like to know if i can build it up with the type 2 fork that i got which is only 390mm (stackheight) and i guess that this woulnd´t work the way it should.
very nice build though!
cheers kay
do you know if your frame is suspension corrected?
i own a 94 phoenix as well, and would like to know if i can build it up with the type 2 fork that i got which is only 390mm (stackheight) and i guess that this woulnd´t work the way it should.
very nice build though!
cheers kay
Jeroen
Rigid Fork Service Centre
Das Phoenix in 12" war niemals suspension corrected.
Ich muss mal in meine WTB data zu hause herumsehen aber es ist aus zu messen (glaube headtube laenge) ob deines Rahme corrected oder non-corrected ist.
Ich muss mal in meine WTB data zu hause herumsehen aber es ist aus zu messen (glaube headtube laenge) ob deines Rahme corrected oder non-corrected ist.
Jeroen
Rigid Fork Service Centre
Phoenix spec's:
Headtube länge Non Suspension frames:
12" - 3,75" (95,25mm)
15" - 5,25" (133,35mm)
18" - 6,75" (171,45mm)
Headtube länge Suspension frames:
12" - n/a (12" gab es nicht im 'suspension corrected' versionen)
15" - 4,50" (114,3mm)
18" - 6,00" (152,4mm)
Headtube länge Non Suspension frames:
12" - 3,75" (95,25mm)
15" - 5,25" (133,35mm)
18" - 6,75" (171,45mm)
Headtube länge Suspension frames:
12" - n/a (12" gab es nicht im 'suspension corrected' versionen)
15" - 4,50" (114,3mm)
18" - 6,00" (152,4mm)
bertel
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Der Hajo's hat, abgesehen von den 12"ern natürlich, laut eigener Aussage keine Non Suspension Rahmen nach Deutschland importiert. Wenn der vom Kay also ursprünglich von dort stammt ist es ein Suspension Rahmen.
a really nice bike. have a lot of fun with it!
berlin-mtbler
absolut systemrelevant
@jeroen
Great bike.
Great bike.
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