Wenn der Einsatzbereich Full Power E MTB und Fahrergewicht über 90kg ist, dann kommt man mit dem Hover MC schon in den Grenzbereich was den Luftdruck betrifft
Da konnte der Opt mehr ab, nur gibt's den leider nicht mehr.Intend Upsidedown Gabeln: Infos und Austausch
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Da konnte der Opt mehr ab, nur gibt's den leider nicht mehr.Anzeige
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Die Druckstufe an der Gabel bei 1:1 Übersetzung ist nicht wirklich Gewichtsabhängig und damit auch nicht von der Federrate.
Da jeder Fahrer den Sag und damit den Gegenhalt der Feder in einem gewissen Bereich gleich einstellt (~+/-20% Sag), haben diese Fahrer dann auch beim Einfedern ähnlichen Gegenhalt.
Was die Druckstufe dort noch zusätzlich zu Feder on Top geben muss, ist vielmehr durch die Geschwindigkeit des Fahrers und der Impacts (und ein wenig dem Einsatzzweck, z.B. Stolperbiken als etwas speziellere Variante) definiert.
Das ist also ne ganz andere Party als die Zugstufe. Die ist stark abhängig von der Federrate.
Ok, danke. Das bedeutet einfach gesagt, on size fits all..?
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Das Problem ist bei mir nur in Verbindung mit dem Smarty aufgetreten. Tatsächlich das bisher einzige Produkt von Intend was meiner Meinung nach ne komplette Katastrophe war. Nur Stiffmaster mit normaler Kralle funktioniert bei mir prima ohne rutschen oder lösen.
Ich bin noch kein Hover gefahren, aber zw. meinen bisherigen Air und Coil Dämpfern war vom Fahrgefühl schon ein krasser Unterschied.
Und wenn der Hover Coil wegen Stahlfeder eben noch einen Ticken sensibler als der normale Hover auf den ersten 50% und wegen Air progressiver auf den restlichen 50% als ein normaler Stahlfederdämpfer ist ... dann nehm ich das gerne mit.
Und ja mir gefallen Coildämpfer rein optisch besser und bei Hoverm wegen der dünnen Kolbenstange noch 2x mal mehr
Aber erstmal wird der Telum getestet ... der hat eigentlich alles was ich mir wünschen würde
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Jain.
Das hängt dann von zwei Dingen ab:
- fährst du so, wie Intend sich das vorstellt, dass ihre Kundschaft fährt?
- wie breit is die Range des SO
Wenn der SO breit einstellbar ist und/oder du so fährst, wie sie sich das denken: dann passt one size.
Um mal wieder andere Beispiele zu geben:
Fox hat 2x Basevalve und 2x Midvalve für die GripX2
Der SO ist nur das Basevalve. Das Midvalve ist dabei noch gar nicht angerührt. Ob es da verschiedene Tunes gibt: offenbar unklar, müsste man erfragen.
MST hat 3 verschiedene Ventile (Komfort, Sport, Race) für das Midvalve. Also mindestens drei verschiedene Varianten am Midvalve. Mit verschiedenen Shimstacks würde es sich noch multiplizieren.
Basevalve macht er meines Wissens auch ein eigenes. Das heißt das sind nochmal deutlich mehr Optionen, als bei Fox.
Ob und wie viele verschiedene Konfigurationen es bei Intend für Base- und Midvalve gibt: scheint unbekannt zu sein? Und den typischen Intend Kunden offenbar auch nicht wirklich zu interessieren (wo wir dann wieder beim Punkt von @_Tyrolens_ wären).
Frag doch einfach André
Alles andere sind doch nur Vermutungen und nicht Zielführend
Alles andere sind doch nur Vermutungen und nicht Zielführend
Eben aus dem Grund, dass andere Tuner (MST z.B.) hier verschiedene Base Tunes anbieten und Intend ja bei der Bestellung einer Gabel auch die Druckstufe grob auf das Fahrergewicht abstimmt, hatte es mich etwas gewundert das der SO nur in einer Ausführung, ohne zumindest auf das Fahrergewicht einzugehen, verkauft wird.
Ich glaube auch kaum, daß Intend sich da die Mühe macht bei der Bestellung des SO ins Kundenkonto zu schauen, was der Kunde für ne Gabel hat und wie diese bei Auslieferung abgestimmt wurde um dann den SO auch so anzupassen. Deshalb kam bei mir die Frage überhaupt auf, ob es nur einen Tune für den SO gibt
Das wird auch mein nächster Schritt sein
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Oh shit, sieht das gut aus.
Mal wieder B-Ware gammeln gehen?
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Das glaub ich sofort ... vorn bleibt erstmal die Era.
Zumindest bis ich ne Flash35 mal Probefahren konnte und wieder genug Geld aufm Konto ist
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Glaube die haben nur die einfache CheckvalveVariante. Kann nix taugen
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Ich warte leider seit 10. November und mehrmaligen Nachfragen auf mein kis. Ich denke da kommt nichts mehr.
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Cornelius hat vor einiger Zeit auf mtbr.com mal etwas ausführlicher über die Dämpfung in seinen Gabeln geschrieben. Ich fand das damals hilfreich, auch zum Verständnis, wie man das als Unternehmer managed.
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Hi at all,
we at Intend are reading this stuff with great interest.
First of all I am happy to read, that with our Optimized-configuration our damping is not any more perceived as "poor" or something similar, but "good", what is already a big step for us
the most interesting thing is, that between the (from some called poor) GreenAge-configuration to the Optimized-configuration there was no change in the hardware (only the bladder was added, which does only make a minor difference in everyday riding). But the shimstacks where changed.
but between the perception of "poor" and "good" is only a shimstack configuration, what (for me) leads to the fact that it is more about the marketing, not the real damping itself.
Now my aim is, to explain a few things, to give you insights in what we do and what maybe would be next step for some who wants to play around with our damping, what we always agree with and always support.
Our first compression setting was 1x 14x0,15 to 8 clamp. It was the simple sweet spot between to hard shimstack (we tried 14x0,2to8 before and this was fatiquing and of course also lighter and different stacks). It worked great, cannot say it in other words. Rulezman was ok with this but anyway wanted to plant the Mezzer cartridge (because he wants to earn some money as tuner...)
Then we changed to 14x0,1 + 12x0,15 + 12x,015 to 8, which has a soft initial damping to reduce spiking on the smaller hits, but harder smaller shims to give enough feedback. the good thing on this configuration was, for the comfort rider, that with open LSC it had the same dyno plots like the 14x0,15 before, so we could satisfy both the racers and the comfort riders. Rulezman said its bad configuration, he wants to have the old configuration again, he anyway planted the Mezzer cartridge inside for the RRT.
The problem with this configuration was, that it was fatiguing for some of the riders, not for short shoots like 200hm, but for 1 week in Finale, its hard when you do not want to open LSC completely. That is a big problem for racer guys, to have the LSC fully open as they feel themselfs as racers and need(want) feedback(=LSC more closed)... also for 500-700 hm on one ride, with LSC half way closed or 2/3 closed, it (can) be fatiguing.
So, for us, its always the fatique what is more important than the socalled "feedback" or what ever, because: its nice to have damping which is great for 200hm and race style, but its even worse to have a holiday trip to Finale for one week and you have pain in the arms after day 1. And trust me: all trips I made, Finale, Molini, Spain, San Romolo, everywhere, I am not the fastest rider, but on the end of they day I was the fastest because everybody else with their Öhlins forks, Fox forks, RS forks, Manitou forks, they need to stop and shake their hads after all 200hm. everybody. but not me. I overtook an Ex world cup racer in Molini (the E13 guy), i overtook Albi from the shuttle company. I NEVER would be faster then them, but on the 1000hm ride, they need to stop. I was just riding along...
So yeah, then we got to the Optimized damping, we changed now to 14x0,1 + 13x0,1 + 12x0,1 to 8, which is softer then the Green Age stack, to make sure that nobody suffers under fatique. And the best on the configuration was, that with LSC 1-5 clicks from closed, you had the same damping curve like Green-Age in half way open, what means that also the riders who wants to have some more feedback can be satisfied with it, running the LSC more on the closed half, compfort riders half to open.
This configuration is pretty similar to the 14x0,15 from past times, which Rulezman wanted to have back when we changed to GreenAge. Now, as we have this in a similar way again, Rulezman wants to have the GreenAge stack back, because the new configuration lacks damping and he needs more compression.
so far so good, some riders feel a lack of damping on our cartridge, but with the version with Greenage, what had this "more" of damping, it was poor.
it is a bit of a circle, which now closes again.
I do understand, that there are different riding styles, some guys are living in Finale, some in 200hm region, some are racers, some are comfort riders. Some people get simply get overchallenged when we would ask about Feedback-wishes, riding style, average hm in a row. They want to buy a fork, which is salted from the boss, not to need to salt they soup themself.
For everybody, who has the wish for tuning, we are a open book, just ask us!
We decided some time ago, not to offer different compression units with different shimstacks for 59 euro, like formula does (what is a great thing for sure), becase the only difference would be a different shimstack configuration for around 80 Cent, what in my eyes would be a parody to customers. But when we offer shimstacks for 5,90 euro, peole would say Intend is to complicated to tune. that is why we go the way with one stack offered.
but nevertheless, everybody can have different stacks IF he wants. feel free to contact us and we will make everything possible."
Auch an den letzten Satz denken. Aber wenn der Kunde nicht weiß, was er will, wird's eben schwierig. Und es wird nicht einfacher, wenn der Hersteller nicht weiß, was der Kunde mögen könnte.
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Hi at all,
we at Intend are reading this stuff with great interest.
First of all I am happy to read, that with our Optimized-configuration our damping is not any more perceived as "poor" or something similar, but "good", what is already a big step for us
the most interesting thing is, that between the (from some called poor) GreenAge-configuration to the Optimized-configuration there was no change in the hardware (only the bladder was added, which does only make a minor difference in everyday riding). But the shimstacks where changed.
but between the perception of "poor" and "good" is only a shimstack configuration, what (for me) leads to the fact that it is more about the marketing, not the real damping itself.
Now my aim is, to explain a few things, to give you insights in what we do and what maybe would be next step for some who wants to play around with our damping, what we always agree with and always support.
Our first compression setting was 1x 14x0,15 to 8 clamp. It was the simple sweet spot between to hard shimstack (we tried 14x0,2to8 before and this was fatiquing and of course also lighter and different stacks). It worked great, cannot say it in other words. Rulezman was ok with this but anyway wanted to plant the Mezzer cartridge (because he wants to earn some money as tuner...)
Then we changed to 14x0,1 + 12x0,15 + 12x,015 to 8, which has a soft initial damping to reduce spiking on the smaller hits, but harder smaller shims to give enough feedback. the good thing on this configuration was, for the comfort rider, that with open LSC it had the same dyno plots like the 14x0,15 before, so we could satisfy both the racers and the comfort riders. Rulezman said its bad configuration, he wants to have the old configuration again, he anyway planted the Mezzer cartridge inside for the RRT.
The problem with this configuration was, that it was fatiguing for some of the riders, not for short shoots like 200hm, but for 1 week in Finale, its hard when you do not want to open LSC completely. That is a big problem for racer guys, to have the LSC fully open as they feel themselfs as racers and need(want) feedback(=LSC more closed)... also for 500-700 hm on one ride, with LSC half way closed or 2/3 closed, it (can) be fatiguing.
So, for us, its always the fatique what is more important than the socalled "feedback" or what ever, because: its nice to have damping which is great for 200hm and race style, but its even worse to have a holiday trip to Finale for one week and you have pain in the arms after day 1. And trust me: all trips I made, Finale, Molini, Spain, San Romolo, everywhere, I am not the fastest rider, but on the end of they day I was the fastest because everybody else with their Öhlins forks, Fox forks, RS forks, Manitou forks, they need to stop and shake their hads after all 200hm. everybody. but not me. I overtook an Ex world cup racer in Molini (the E13 guy), i overtook Albi from the shuttle company. I NEVER would be faster then them, but on the 1000hm ride, they need to stop. I was just riding along...
So yeah, then we got to the Optimized damping, we changed now to 14x0,1 + 13x0,1 + 12x0,1 to 8, which is softer then the Green Age stack, to make sure that nobody suffers under fatique. And the best on the configuration was, that with LSC 1-5 clicks from closed, you had the same damping curve like Green-Age in half way open, what means that also the riders who wants to have some more feedback can be satisfied with it, running the LSC more on the closed half, compfort riders half to open.
This configuration is pretty similar to the 14x0,15 from past times, which Rulezman wanted to have back when we changed to GreenAge. Now, as we have this in a similar way again, Rulezman wants to have the GreenAge stack back, because the new configuration lacks damping and he needs more compression.
so far so good, some riders feel a lack of damping on our cartridge, but with the version with Greenage, what had this "more" of damping, it was poor.
it is a bit of a circle, which now closes again.
I do understand, that there are different riding styles, some guys are living in Finale, some in 200hm region, some are racers, some are comfort riders. Some people get simply get overchallenged when we would ask about Feedback-wishes, riding style, average hm in a row. They want to buy a fork, which is salted from the boss, not to need to salt they soup themself.
For everybody, who has the wish for tuning, we are a open book, just ask us!
We decided some time ago, not to offer different compression units with different shimstacks for 59 euro, like formula does (what is a great thing for sure), becase the only difference would be a different shimstack configuration for around 80 Cent, what in my eyes would be a parody to customers. But when we offer shimstacks for 5,90 euro, peole would say Intend is to complicated to tune. that is why we go the way with one stack offered.
but nevertheless, everybody can have different stacks IF he wants. feel free to contact us and we will make everything possible."
Auch an den letzten Satz denken. Aber wenn der Kunde nicht weiß, was er will, wird's eben schwierig. Und es wird nicht einfacher, wenn der Hersteller nicht weiß, was der Kunde mögen könnte.
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Cornelius hat vor einiger Zeit auf mtbr.com mal etwas ausführlicher über die Dämpfung in seinen Gabeln geschrieben. Ich fand das damals hilfreich, auch zum Verständnis, wie man das als Unternehmer managed.
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Hi at all,
we at Intend are reading this stuff with great interest.
First of all I am happy to read, that with our Optimized-configuration our damping is not any more perceived as "poor" or something similar, but "good", what is already a big step for us
the most interesting thing is, that between the (from some called poor) GreenAge-configuration to the Optimized-configuration there was no change in the hardware (only the bladder was added, which does only make a minor difference in everyday riding). But the shimstacks where changed.
but between the perception of "poor" and "good" is only a shimstack configuration, what (for me) leads to the fact that it is more about the marketing, not the real damping itself.
Now my aim is, to explain a few things, to give you insights in what we do and what maybe would be next step for some who wants to play around with our damping, what we always agree with and always support.
Our first compression setting was 1x 14x0,15 to 8 clamp. It was the simple sweet spot between to hard shimstack (we tried 14x0,2to8 before and this was fatiquing and of course also lighter and different stacks). It worked great, cannot say it in other words. Rulezman was ok with this but anyway wanted to plant the Mezzer cartridge (because he wants to earn some money as tuner...)
Then we changed to 14x0,1 + 12x0,15 + 12x,015 to 8, which has a soft initial damping to reduce spiking on the smaller hits, but harder smaller shims to give enough feedback. the good thing on this configuration was, for the comfort rider, that with open LSC it had the same dyno plots like the 14x0,15 before, so we could satisfy both the racers and the comfort riders. Rulezman said its bad configuration, he wants to have the old configuration again, he anyway planted the Mezzer cartridge inside for the RRT.
The problem with this configuration was, that it was fatiguing for some of the riders, not for short shoots like 200hm, but for 1 week in Finale, its hard when you do not want to open LSC completely. That is a big problem for racer guys, to have the LSC fully open as they feel themselfs as racers and need(want) feedback(=LSC more closed)... also for 500-700 hm on one ride, with LSC half way closed or 2/3 closed, it (can) be fatiguing.
So, for us, its always the fatique what is more important than the socalled "feedback" or what ever, because: its nice to have damping which is great for 200hm and race style, but its even worse to have a holiday trip to Finale for one week and you have pain in the arms after day 1. And trust me: all trips I made, Finale, Molini, Spain, San Romolo, everywhere, I am not the fastest rider, but on the end of they day I was the fastest because everybody else with their Öhlins forks, Fox forks, RS forks, Manitou forks, they need to stop and shake their hads after all 200hm. everybody. but not me. I overtook an Ex world cup racer in Molini (the E13 guy), i overtook Albi from the shuttle company. I NEVER would be faster then them, but on the 1000hm ride, they need to stop. I was just riding along...
So yeah, then we got to the Optimized damping, we changed now to 14x0,1 + 13x0,1 + 12x0,1 to 8, which is softer then the Green Age stack, to make sure that nobody suffers under fatique. And the best on the configuration was, that with LSC 1-5 clicks from closed, you had the same damping curve like Green-Age in half way open, what means that also the riders who wants to have some more feedback can be satisfied with it, running the LSC more on the closed half, compfort riders half to open.
This configuration is pretty similar to the 14x0,15 from past times, which Rulezman wanted to have back when we changed to GreenAge. Now, as we have this in a similar way again, Rulezman wants to have the GreenAge stack back, because the new configuration lacks damping and he needs more compression.
so far so good, some riders feel a lack of damping on our cartridge, but with the version with Greenage, what had this "more" of damping, it was poor.
it is a bit of a circle, which now closes again.
I do understand, that there are different riding styles, some guys are living in Finale, some in 200hm region, some are racers, some are comfort riders. Some people get simply get overchallenged when we would ask about Feedback-wishes, riding style, average hm in a row. They want to buy a fork, which is salted from the boss, not to need to salt they soup themself.
For everybody, who has the wish for tuning, we are a open book, just ask us!
We decided some time ago, not to offer different compression units with different shimstacks for 59 euro, like formula does (what is a great thing for sure), becase the only difference would be a different shimstack configuration for around 80 Cent, what in my eyes would be a parody to customers. But when we offer shimstacks for 5,90 euro, peole would say Intend is to complicated to tune. that is why we go the way with one stack offered.
but nevertheless, everybody can have different stacks IF he wants. feel free to contact us and we will make everything possible."
Auch an den letzten Satz denken. Aber wenn der Kunde nicht weiß, was er will, wird's eben schwierig. Und es wird nicht einfacher, wenn der Hersteller nicht weiß, was der Kunde mögen könnte.
Das ist ja im Endeffekt das, was weiter oben schon steht: wenn die Druckstufe vernünftig ausgelegt ist, wird sie sehr viele Fahrer zufriedenstellen und ein Stack kann vollkommen in Ordnung sein. Weil der Stack zusätzlich zur Feder gegen das Einfedern arbeitet. Nicht dagegen. Und die Feder bei allen Leuten halbwegs gleich im Verhältnis zum Gewicht ist (eben +/-20% Sag).
Das gilt wohlgemerkt nur für die Gabel mit 1:1 Übersetzung. Dämpfer und Hinterbau - andere Sache.
Bei der Zugstufe:
Unmöglich das mit einem Stack abzudecken, wenn die Gabeln 30mm Federwegsdifferenzen haben und von 50kg bis 100kg funktionieren sollen.
(aber hier gibts ja keinen Grund davon auszugehen, dass es für HSR nicht verschiedene Stacks geben würde bei Intend, ggf. eben nur nicht so fein gerastert, aber das ist unbestätigt)
Hi zusammen in die Runde,
kennt wer zufällig bei der Flash 35 jeweils die Interfaces bzw die Gewindegröße/durchmesser und Steigung von der Dämpfungskartusche? Hab da eine Idee bzw. ein kleines Projekt im Kopf.
kennt wer zufällig bei der Flash 35 jeweils die Interfaces bzw die Gewindegröße/durchmesser und Steigung von der Dämpfungskartusche? Hab da eine Idee bzw. ein kleines Projekt im Kopf.
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Hi zusammen in die Runde,
kennt wer zufällig bei der Flash 35 jeweils die Interfaces bzw die Gewindegröße/durchmesser und Steigung von der Dämpfungskartusche? Hab da eine Idee bzw. ein kleines Projekt im Kopf.
Wenn du schon dabei bist, bitte einmal passende Adapter für die Smashpot V2
Wobei ich mir nicht mal sicher bin, ob das gehen würde. Die Smashpot selbst kann man nicht umdrehen, das würde den HBO eliminieren.
Und wenn man die Smashpot Einheit normal herum verbaut, dürfte es verdammt knapp werden zwischen dem sich bewegenden Tauchrohr und der Feder/Sleeve.
Push bekommt es ja auch irgendwie hinWenn du schon dabei bist, bitte einmal passende Adapter für die Smashpot V2
Wobei ich mir nicht mal sicher bin, ob das gehen würde. Die Smashpot selbst kann man nicht umdrehen, das würde den HBO eliminieren.
Und wenn man die Smashpot Einheit normal herum verbaut, dürfte es verdammt knapp werden zwischen dem sich bewegenden Tauchrohr und der Feder/Sleeve.
Ansonsten die 38er von Intend nehmen, da sollte genug Platz sein - man muss dann aber mit Schrumpfschlauch fahren und ohne diese zweiteilige Führung
So ne Art 38er Bausatz-Chassis ohne Innerein mit passenden Bohrungen für footstuds und Gewinden oben für Smashpot/GripX2 (die man eh schon u.U. hat) wäre ne echte geile Option
An den Innereien einer Intend bin ich zwar nicht interessiert, aber um so mehr an dem herausragenden Chassis (zu einem überschaubaren Preis
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Auch zur Zugstufe hat Cornelius noch etwas geschrieben:
Our Approach with the OPT damping was:
we wanted to make the HS-rebound slower, what means that the LS-rebound is faster, when you have the same average speed, which suits for you as a rider.
so for hard hits, deep in the travel, the suspension won't shoot out and you could loose control because of the super fast reaction of the fork. it comes out controlled without overshooting.
the faster LS-rebound means, that it can track the grownd better for smaller /fast hits like chatter.
imagine, with low HS-rebound stack, you need to close the LSR more, to have the same rebound speed you feel comfortable. this leads to worse reaction of the fork in the first half of the travel, and brake pumps and small chatter cant get track so good.
with the harder HS-rebound, you won't get kicked out from the fork for hard hits, but will get a super smooth ride for fast chatter.
"As I first rode this new OPT configuration, I didn't think so much good or bad about it. It was just insane, with the GreenAge-stack (=similar what your Ondrej is riding) there was always some kind of - hard to describe - "not working 100% freely", I think the average ride hight was lower, when you imagine you have slower LSR(because of fast HSR), and you have 25% sag, then the rebound works slower in the first stroke, what means in dynamic riding situation, you have higher sag of maybe 32% sag, because the fork cannot come out so fast because of the slower LSR. if you now imagine you have a more open LSR without having a to fast rebound overall, it sits higher in the dynamic sag because the fork comes out more freely for the average hits. then you have around 28% dynamic sag instead of 32, what leads to less fatique and better control because you can start every hit with lower spring force.
this is what we did with the OPT damping.
and it works really awesome in our opinion."
Das lustige dran ist, dass ich das zwar gespürt habe, aber den Shimstack aufgrund eines Denkfehlers genau andersrum ausgelegt habe. So, wie's Cornelius beschrieben hat, hat's dann wirklich funktioniert.
Ich frage ja nur, aber funktioniert bei Fox nunmehr die HS Dämpfung? Also kann man sie spürbar verstellen oder funktioniert das auch nur bei so und so vielen Gabel, weil sich der Verstellmechanismus so schwierig zusammen bauen lässt? Und an der X2 sind die Shims vorgespannt, oder? Das will man eigentlich nicht. Also warum eine Grip2 besser funktionieren soll - keine Ahnung. Aber ist erst mal der Ruf schlecht (oder gut), lässt sich das kaum mehr ändern.
Our Approach with the OPT damping was:
we wanted to make the HS-rebound slower, what means that the LS-rebound is faster, when you have the same average speed, which suits for you as a rider.
so for hard hits, deep in the travel, the suspension won't shoot out and you could loose control because of the super fast reaction of the fork. it comes out controlled without overshooting.
the faster LS-rebound means, that it can track the grownd better for smaller /fast hits like chatter.
imagine, with low HS-rebound stack, you need to close the LSR more, to have the same rebound speed you feel comfortable. this leads to worse reaction of the fork in the first half of the travel, and brake pumps and small chatter cant get track so good.
with the harder HS-rebound, you won't get kicked out from the fork for hard hits, but will get a super smooth ride for fast chatter.
"As I first rode this new OPT configuration, I didn't think so much good or bad about it. It was just insane, with the GreenAge-stack (=similar what your Ondrej is riding) there was always some kind of - hard to describe - "not working 100% freely", I think the average ride hight was lower, when you imagine you have slower LSR(because of fast HSR), and you have 25% sag, then the rebound works slower in the first stroke, what means in dynamic riding situation, you have higher sag of maybe 32% sag, because the fork cannot come out so fast because of the slower LSR. if you now imagine you have a more open LSR without having a to fast rebound overall, it sits higher in the dynamic sag because the fork comes out more freely for the average hits. then you have around 28% dynamic sag instead of 32, what leads to less fatique and better control because you can start every hit with lower spring force.
this is what we did with the OPT damping.
and it works really awesome in our opinion."
Das lustige dran ist, dass ich das zwar gespürt habe, aber den Shimstack aufgrund eines Denkfehlers genau andersrum ausgelegt habe. So, wie's Cornelius beschrieben hat, hat's dann wirklich funktioniert.
Ich frage ja nur, aber funktioniert bei Fox nunmehr die HS Dämpfung? Also kann man sie spürbar verstellen oder funktioniert das auch nur bei so und so vielen Gabel, weil sich der Verstellmechanismus so schwierig zusammen bauen lässt? Und an der X2 sind die Shims vorgespannt, oder? Das will man eigentlich nicht. Also warum eine Grip2 besser funktionieren soll - keine Ahnung. Aber ist erst mal der Ruf schlecht (oder gut), lässt sich das kaum mehr ändern.
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