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... wer erinnert sich nicht an diese kurbeln :love:

scheinbar auch der eine oder andere bei big s in japan :mad:

Sep. 21, 2003 10:58:04 PM Intersting tidbit of info: Posted By: AngryAsian

So Shimano comes out with this "revolutionary" XTR crank/BB combo for '03... it's certainly no secret that Magic Motorcycle did this sort of thing way back in the early 90's (among others, although they were, arguably, the only ones to do it successfully). Couple of observations... not only is the basic design premise the same (outboard cartridge bearings enveloped by the large cross-section hollow crankarms), but the two designs also use the exact same size cartridge bearings (#6805) and even more shocking is the fact that the cup installation tools are nearly identical and, in a pinch, are even compatible between the two systems!!! Most of you probably won't even care, but someone out there will find that interesting... Alex, are you reading this???

werhatserfunden :confused:
flo
 
Jo mei, die Originale bleiben aber unerrreicht...
 

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... konnte noch viel mehr als nur Kurbeln und Innenlager. Aber die wären hier natürlich auch dabei.

Bei Interesse Mail.

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Hi,

wenn ich mich nicht sehr irre dann ist das Monolith aber nicht von Chris Pong sondern von Spencer Oywang (oder so ähnlich). Das Bike das Pong gebaut hat war das Cannondale 4000, das Rad sas John Montgomery seinen Hut essen ließ.
Zum Thema Pong habe ich hier noch ein schönes Zitat von John Olsen (auch bekannt als Uncle Knobby aus den alten amerikanischen Mountain Bikes):

Now, the Magic Motorycycle (AKA Pong) bike was made on Whidbey Island in a little machine shop/house in which the Pong family lived. They were friends of mine at the time, and I watched the whole thing progress from rather brilliant and innovative cranks (produced and sold under the Magic Motorcycle name) to the whole bike. TO put it in perspective, the shop was littered with dirt bikes with odd suspensions and bizarre disc brakes, all machined by the Pongs (dad Alex and son Skooks). There were even more bizarre ultra-short-stroke, large displacement, ultra-light engines sitting around, too, all with remarkable innovations, and which looked to this engineer like they would fail in 30 seconds. Alex was the dreamer, Skooks the more practical, brilliant machinist. Everything they did was based on the power of the computer controlled milling machine to make any shape you could imagine from a billet of aluminum (they killed a lot of 7075 trees). The cranks were good enough, and worked well enough after the first generation which I broke on my 1st ride, that Joe Montgomery of Cdale fell in love with the Pongs and showered them with development contracts, capital, Silicon Graphics workstations, Pro-E software, and love. Alex, being Alex, immediately bought not a real house for his saintly wife, but a late 40's Navion airplane and more milling machines.

Alex was untroubled by reality or testing or advice or finances. I don't think that he was terribly ethical, either. The Magic bike was truly vapor-ware, and as far as I can remember, it was never ridden. Talk about biting off more than you can chew! Every system on the bike was unique, and every one was riddled with development problems that would have taken years to make right. It was the hit of the 93? show, and then Cannondale got it home and said, "Gulp! Oh, s__t!" Soon after, the Pongs came out with an even lighter crank with no BB bearings, just plastic bushings, flew up and took me to lunch in a little diner where he demanded a bucket of whater, and demonstrated that the crank/bb assembly with chainrings floated. I was bemused. I float, too, but I am not a good crank. In that way.

Soon after that, C-dale ended the gravy train, jerked all their equipment out, the Pongs lost the machine shop/house, which they had never paid on apparently, and were "outdoors". Pong's lovely wife divorced him, and Skooks, whom I respected, got a job in a machine shop.

And so ended the Magic.

Grüße,


Michael
 
Böses Foul meinerseits - natürlich ist S.O. der Vater des Monolith.

Und John Olsen als Kurbel nicht soo gut - aber als Schreiberling.

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dankestaabi
 
Im allerersten Mountainbike war - glaube ich zumindest - ne Story über die Pongs drin. Hat die jemand gerade parat, oder muss ich selbst suchen und scannen?
 
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Im allerersten Mountainbike war - glaube ich zumindest - ne Story über die Pongs drin. Hat die jemand gerade parat, oder muss ich selbst suchen und scannen?

Aus der Ausgabe ist das obige Bild. Kann ich nachher mal scannen, wer will´s denn haben? Dann einfach eine Mail an mich. Hier (60-KB-Grenze) dürfte von den A4-Seiten, besonders vom Text, kaum was übrigbleiben...
 
Siehst du bei mir eine gallery? Naja, dann werde ich das mal einrichten und so machen. Ist ja auch viel praktischer.
Sollte dann ab heute Nachmittag spätestens online sein.
:)
 
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