Hi, Frog Bikes here! Thank you for your feedback, Tobias, we really appreciate it. Please find below the reply from the Head of our Product Development team. I hope it answers some of your questions.
1.We are always working to improve the components of the bikes. We are constantly battling with increased costs, lighter weight and better components.
2.Hubs we think we have found a better version at no extra cost, so are testing these now.
3.Pedals – this has been an on-going issue. We need plastic ones to keep the weight and cost down, however, the bearings are never as good. We are looking on our own design. That will take about 6 months to test and implement.
4.Hub clearance has been checked by the safety experts in the UK and there has been no issue here.
5.We are trying smaller bottom brackets, however the 106mm means that the double chain guard will hit the frame. We have some new ideas for this going forward using a 107mm.
6.The aluminium cuttings in the rims should not be there. Our QC team will check this going forward. We have not had this issue before.
7.From a safety aspect we cannot advise removing spokes, this will impact the wheel stability.
8.Thinner spokes are a good suggestion, we will review over time as they are more expensive and most customers do not require them.
9.Kick stands do work on the bikes, most stores can fit one.
10.I am not sure what screws are being mentioned, the brake levers come with the standard
Tektro screws.
11.Customers in the original research did not like the chain cover, these are a perfect sales opportunity for the store.
All feedback is good, however, every cyclist has a different opinion and we have to work on the fact that Frog bikes are a mass market brand of bikes and individual customers can tailor the bikes as necessary.
We hope that you and your child are very happy with your Frog 48, and that you get a lot of fun riding it!
Best wishes ,
Frog Bikes team
[Quote = "Tobias1009 post: 11,747,574, member: 97044"] My letter opinion on Frog 48:
+ Very good quality, in real even more chic than Frogbike.com
(Black rims, better seatpost, stem quality, color accents in the spokes of the brake lever ergonomics, light weight frame ..)
Here is my review:
- Hubs and pedals run in the new state already rough, at the hub I'll try to loosen the lock nuts and to persuade them to better smooth running, but overall would be better quality here worthwhile
- Hinterbaubreite is 116mm, so 110mm hubs must be aufgespacert? There are several Certainly washers installed. I would find it nice who would be the measure of 110 mm.
- 116mm bottom bracket, why? A straight chain line results with 106mm (plus benefits: such as weight, Q-factor, stiffness).
- Slotted screw / nut at the brake levers (adjuster), traded on old
Shimano, immediately better pressure point of the brake
- (A few) metal chips under the rim tape, uncritical, but not beautiful
- Tires are welcome to be of high quality (why there is no 16 "Folding with fine carcass?)
Conclusion:
I can really recommend the wheel, Because Despite all the criticism, the manufacturer HAS BEEN very troublesome. The bike is really cheap for the quality and the concept is very good. I just think did with the hub annoying, if did but others can do better?
I would be happy if a good product even learns a little fine-tuning. [/ Quote]
Meine kurze Meinung zum Frog 48:
+ sehr gute Qualität, in real noch schicker als auf Frogbike.com
(schwarze
Felgen, bessere Sattelstütze, hochwertiger Vorbau, Farbakzente bei den Speichen, Ergonomie der Bremshebel, leichter Rahmen..)
Hier meine Kritik:
- Naben und Pedale laufen im Neuzustand schon rau, bei den Naben werde ich versuchen, die Kontermuttern zu lösen und sie zu besserem Leichtlauf zu überreden, insgesamt wäre aber hier bessere Qualität lohnend
- Hinterbaubreite ist 116mm, also müssen 110mm Naben aufgespacert werden? Es sind jedenfalls entsprechende Unterlegscheiben eingebaut. Ich würde es schöner finden wen das Maß 110 mm betragen würde.
- 116mm Innenlager, warum? Eine gerade Kettenlinie ergibt sich mit 106mm (plus Vorteile bei Gewicht, Q-Faktor, Steifigkeit).
- geschlitzte Schraube/Mutter bei den Bremshebeln (Einsteller), getauscht auf alte
Shimano, sofort besserer Druckpunkt der Bremse
- (wenige) Metallspäne unter dem
Felgenband, unkritisch, aber nicht schön
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Reifen dürfen gerne hochwertiger sein (warum gibt es keine 16" Faltreifen mit feiner Karkasse?)
Fazit:
Ich kann das Rad wirklich empfehlen, denn trotz aller Kritik, hat sich der Hersteller sehr Mühe gegeben. Das Rad ist wirklich preiswert für die Qualität und das Konzept ist sehr gut. Ich finde nur das mit den Naben ärgerlich, ob das aber andere besser können?
Ich würde mich freuen, wenn ein gutes Produkt noch ein bisschen Feinschliff erfährt.
