Vaast A/1 RCZ [A]ufbau-/Laber-Thread

[90luke90]

Auf alu hätte ich ja gar kein Bock, wäre ja ein richtiges downgrade. Ich habe mal Kleinanzeigen durchgestöbert, es gibt über 10 carbon und nur einen alu.

 

[v0llhirsch]

Bei Reddit gibt es Berichte, dass die ersten Rahmen in den USA gegen einen Niner RLT Alu getauscht wurden. Aber aktuell stockt es und werden auch dort keine neuen Rahmen mehr geliefert.
Angeblich, weil das Innenlager zur Zeit nirgends auf Lager ist.
Weiß jemand, wie es rechtlich aussieht, wenn Vaast / United Wheels in Schwierigkeiten gerät, muss dann RCZ für einen Austausch sorgen?

Persönlich würde ich ja sagen:
Wenn du mit Innenlager das BB meinst, dann sch*** aufs Innenlager.
Das SRAM DUB kostet 40€ bei r2 und die Rival E1-Kurbel 110€ - ich denke das Shimano BB + Kurbel wird nicht viel mehr kosten.


Wenn man dafür schneller wieder fahrtüchtiges Rad hat, ist es mir das wert nochmals 150€ in die Hand zu nehmen.

 

[TrailHippo]

Kurbel kann bleiben. Brauchst nur ein ein PF30 Sram Dub Innenlager und Tools um das einzupressen oder einen Bikeshop der das macht

 

[v0llhirsch]

Kurbel kann bleiben. Brauchst nur ein ein PF30 Sram Dub Innenlager und Tools um das einzupressen oder einen Bikeshop der das macht

Bei uns sind eh alle Praxis-Teile ersetzt worden, da wir alle kürzere Kurbeln bevorzugen und von Praxis keine Alternative verfügbar ist (zu bezahlbaren Preisen).

 

[pingus]

Kurbel kann bleiben. Brauchst nur ein ein PF30 Sram Dub Innenlager und Tools um das einzupressen oder einen Bikeshop der das macht

Well, if you have the Praxis crankset, you cannot fit a Sram bb. Apparently the pf30 Praxis bb is hard to source. It is m30 drive side and m28 non-drive side (or the opposite but you get the point).

They said they would reimburse up to 200usd to swap parts/labor. I'd rather do the work myself and get an upgrade in frame material or negociate with them : they pay for what ever bb you want so the frame replacement can be shipped sooner than later.

I don't know how recall procedures works, that's probably a massive chore to comply with regulations and stuff. I'm 14.67% sure that offering a lower-end replacement product is illegal, especially in Europe, so that must be their choke point and they try to do some damage control not to go bankrupt (pure guessing at this point).

I wonder if United Wheels just dissappears, then the seller would be responsible for compensation. I'll be fine talking 100k RCZ points.

 

[PVDPM]

Good morning, and for those of us with the complete Rival AXS groupset, what bottom bracket do we have installed? Is it compatible with the possible Niner aluminum frame? And with the carbon one?

 

[PVDPM]

I already told them I'm not willing to accept a replacement with an aluminum frame like the Niner, to which they haven't responded. We also have to consider all the extras (frame wrap, fork, and protectors) we invested in for the Vaast frame, which can't be transferred to a new one.
I even paid for a new shift fork as a replacement, which cost me 3 months of paperwork and €35 that is now absolutely worthless.
I think this looks very bad, aside from not being able to use the bike, which is my biggest problem right now. I'm looking to buy a new frame and migrate the entire Rival AXS groupset, which is the most valuable part of the bike at the moment.

 

[v0llhirsch]

Well, if you have the Praxis crankset, you cannot fit a Sram bb. Apparently the pf30 Praxis bb is hard to source. It is m30 drive side and m28 non-drive side (or the opposite but you get the point).

No, but you could get rid of the Praxis Crankset - that was my point (and I did it alredy on the Vaasts).
If you want to keep your Praxis Crankset on a Niner bike, you need something like this:
https://www.bike24.de/p1125045.html

Good morning, and for those of us with the complete Rival AXS groupset, what bottom bracket do we have installed? Is it compatible with the possible Niner aluminum frame? And with the carbon one?

Vaast A/1 is using a T47 BB.
Niner is using a PF30 BB.

Therefore it's a Praxis T47 M30 in the Vaast which is not compatible with the PF30 BB in a Niner Frame and you need a new BB (see above).
Hence my point, if I would have a new frame, I would get rid of Praxis as it is hard to source in the EU.
SRAM is cheap and available.

(btw: I have a niner RLT steel (unrelated from the recall) and Vaast A/1 here, so this is no guesswork )

 

[TrailHippo]

maybe you could also get away with this https://www.sram.com/en/truvativ/models/bb-adpt-a1 and a praxis bsa BB ... I have no experience with these adapters those and dont know how stiff they are.